When?

[Kevin]

Does anyone know when the 24 hour a day, 7 day a week, 7 month long
commercial for Bruce Springsteen is going to end on Sirius channel 10?

[H Glazer]

Post by Kevin
Does anyone know when the 24 hour a day, 7 day a week, 7 month long
commercial for Bruce Springsteen is going to end on Sirius channel 10?

When Sirius' programming honchos stop getting the nose candy from the label
reps.

H.

[YKW (ad hoc)]

Post by H Glazer

Post by Kevin
Does anyone know when the 24 hour a day, 7 day a week, 7 month long
commercial for Bruce Springsteen is going to end on Sirius channel 10?

When Sirius' programming honchos stop getting the nose candy from the
label reps.
H.

More likely as soon as Broooooooce and his team stop paying for the
channel. Which, I s'pose, is about the same thing...

[Capricorne]

Post by H Glazer

Post by Kevin
Does anyone know when the 24 hour a day, 7 day a week, 7 month long
commercial for Bruce Springsteen is going to end on Sirius channel 10?

When Sirius' programming honchos stop getting the nose candy from the label
reps.
H.

I've discovered a new one tonight, The Neil Diamond Channel, on Sirius
channel 3... :-?

[Kevin]

Post by Capricorne
I've discovered a new one tonight, The Neil Diamond Channel, on Sirius
channel 3... :-?

This is a pretty disturbing trend and it's starting to suck.

Dedicating a channel to one artist is certainly something you could never
hear on broadcast radio and I commend Sirius and XM. However I think it
would serve both Sirius' and XM's listeners much better to dedicate one or
two channels to one artist and then rotate the artist's every day or at
least once a week.

This is a new, exciting and experimental medium but the choice of dedicating
channels to the likes of The Greatful Dead, Bruce Springsteen, in the past,
The Who, The Rolling Stones and now Neil Diamond SCREAMS that they need to
inject some new blood into the programming team at Sirius.

I'm a 52 year old, white, male and I'm getting sick of these dinasours of
rock channels. It's certainly not what I subscribed to pay radio to hear.

It's pains me when I hear Satellite radio going out of their way to sound
like FM or even worce AM. XM is more guilty than Sirius in this department.
Fast talking DJ's, talking over the intro to songs and just talking way too
long in general. Let's not forget the lame prerecorded promos on both
services.

Lke I said before... This is a pretty disturbing trend and it's starting to
suck.

-Kevin

[Tony Elka]

Post by Kevin
I'm a 52 year old, white, male and I'm getting sick of these dinasours of
rock channels. It's certainly not what I subscribed to pay radio to hear.

There are other channels. I never listen to single-artist channels
myself. But I suspect they know their demographics and what sells.

Tony

[BaJoRi]

Post by Tony Elka

Post by Kevin
I'm a 52 year old, white, male and I'm getting sick of these dinasours of
rock channels. It's certainly not what I subscribed to pay radio to hear.

There are other channels. I never listen to single-artist channels
myself. But I suspect they know their demographics and what sells.
Tony

That is the same type of thinking that spwaned the comeercial radio garbage
that led to the creation of XM and Sirius in the first place. You get a
bunch of nitwits who are never at the local clubs but claim they know what
young people like, and have never really worked the talent side of the
business ever, taking kickbacks from record companies to push "artists" like
Ashlee Simpson who has literally no talent, or dinosaurs like Aerosmith and
Bruce, who are just repackaging the same things they put out 20 years ago.

Both Sirius and XM are doing the best they possibly can to destroy their
respective businesses through obnoxiously poor programming.

[Tony Elka]

Post by BaJoRi

Post by Tony Elka

Post by Kevin
I'm a 52 year old, white, male and I'm getting sick of these dinasours of
rock channels. It's certainly not what I subscribed to pay radio to hear.

There are other channels. I never listen to single-artist channels
myself. But I suspect they know their demographics and what sells.
Tony

That is the same type of thinking that spwaned the comeercial radio garbage
that led to the creation of XM and Sirius in the first place. You get a
bunch of nitwits who are never at the local clubs but claim they know what
young people like, and have never really worked the talent side of the
business ever, taking kickbacks from record companies to push "artists" like
Ashlee Simpson who has literally no talent, or dinosaurs like Aerosmith and
Bruce, who are just repackaging the same things they put out 20 years ago.
Both Sirius and XM are doing the best they possibly can to destroy their
respective businesses through obnoxiously poor programming.

The people at XM and Sirius responsible for continuously selling
subscriptions to people with credit cards that can be debited on a
monthly basis know damn well that those "young people at the local
clubs" don't have two pennies to rub together, for the most part.

That's why Sirius has 3 channels devoted to classic rock.

Tony

[BaJoRi]

Post by Tony Elka

Post by BaJoRi

Post by Tony Elka

Post by Kevin
I'm a 52 year old, white, male and I'm getting sick of these
dinasours
of
rock channels. It's certainly not what I subscribed to pay radio to hear.

There are other channels. I never listen to single-artist channels
myself. But I suspect they know their demographics and what sells.
Tony

That is the same type of thinking that spwaned the comeercial radio garbage
that led to the creation of XM and Sirius in the first place. You get a
bunch of nitwits who are never at the local clubs but claim they know what
young people like, and have never really worked the talent side of the
business ever, taking kickbacks from record companies to push "artists" like
Ashlee Simpson who has literally no talent, or dinosaurs like Aerosmith and
Bruce, who are just repackaging the same things they put out 20 years ago.
Both Sirius and XM are doing the best they possibly can to destroy their
respective businesses through obnoxiously poor programming.

The people at XM and Sirius responsible for continuously selling
subscriptions to people with credit cards that can be debited on a
monthly basis know damn well that those "young people at the local
clubs" don't have two pennies to rub together, for the most part.
That's why Sirius has 3 channels devoted to classic rock.
Tony

Thank you for proving my point. Young people always seem to have money for
the things they want, and XM and Sirius are making certain that it isn't
their product that young people want

[Tony Elka]

Post by BaJoRi
Thank you for proving my point. Young people always seem to have money for
the things they want, and XM and Sirius are making certain that it isn't
their product that young people want

What planet are you living on? Young people in the USA are, for the
most part, perpetually broke.

Tony

[unknown]

Post by Tony Elka
What planet are you living on? Young people in the USA are, for the
most part, perpetually broke.

Yeah--that's why the PS3 and Xbox are so cheap. And new games? They never
sell any of those.

[Tony Elka]

Post by unknown

Post by Tony Elka
What planet are you living on? Young people in the USA are, for the
most part, perpetually broke.

Yeah--that's why the PS3 and Xbox are so cheap. And new games? They never
sell any of those.

All of which can be purchased while still living at home with mom and
dad into one's late 20's and even 30's.

Take a look at the economy out there.

Tony

[BaJoRi]

Post by Tony Elka

Post by BaJoRi
Thank you for proving my point. Young people always seem to have money for
the things they want, and XM and Sirius are making certain that it isn't
their product that young people want

What planet are you living on? Young people in the USA are, for the
most part, perpetually broke.
Tony

Please. The way parents spend on their kids today is outrageous. There is a
very good reason that advertisers target younger demographics more than any
other. When they have money, even through a menial job, while in school,
they spend it on comfort items and other things that are stylish and desired
by the peer group. And if they don't have the money they wheedle it from mom
and dad.

Either way you look at it, satellite radio is a dying medium because they
are essentially duplicating the programming flaws of terrestrial radio. So
what if Howard can say "fuck", or certain tunes can be played uncensored.
What matters is that the channels are repetitive in nature, with poor on-air
performers (generally). Case in point: my wife, when she rides in the car
with me, likes to play the Classics channel on Sirius (as in Classical
Music, not Classic Rock). And the same problem occurs in that you will
invariably here Mozart, Tchaikovsky, Souza, some random Spanish guitarist,
with regularity. Hundreds of years worth of music to choice from, and they
stick with the same few dozen composers.

Satellite, with or without the merger, will not survive because they are not
supplying anything different to the marketplace.

[H Glazer]

Post by BaJoRi
What matters is that the channels are repetitive in nature, with poor on-air
performers (generally). Case in point: my wife, when she rides in the car
with me, likes to play the Classics channel on Sirius (as in Classical
Music, not Classic Rock). And the same problem occurs in that you will
invariably here Mozart, Tchaikovsky, Souza, some random Spanish guitarist,
with regularity. Hundreds of years worth of music to choice from, and they
stick with the same few dozen composers.

Try XM Classics. It plays dozens upon dozens of composers, not just the old
reliables. Unfortunately, the Arbitrons show that it is being clobbered by
XM Pops, which DOES play only "classical's greatest hits." The real problem
with satellite radio is that the American audience is overwhelmingly lowest
common denominator, and offering unheard-of variety is never going to get
the medium to critical mass in subscriber numbers. Remember what Barnum said
about the intelligence of the American public; to the overwhelming majority
of existing radio listeners, all XM really has to offer is their favorite
mainstream tunes and artists -- the same ones they're now listening to on
FM -- but without the commercials. That's not reason enough for Joe Sixpack
to plunk down $13 a month, sorry.

H.

[Bob Bohling]

Post by BaJoRi

Post by Tony Elka

Post by BaJoRi
Thank you for proving my point. Young people always seem to have money for
the things they want, and XM and Sirius are making certain that it isn't
their product that young people want

What planet are you living on? Young people in the USA are, for the
most part, perpetually broke.
Tony

Please. The way parents spend on their kids today is outrageous. There is
a very good reason that advertisers target younger demographics more than
any other. When they have money, even through a menial job, while in
school, they spend it on comfort items and other things that are stylish
and desired by the peer group. And if they don't have the money they
wheedle it from mom and dad.
Either way you look at it, satellite radio is a dying medium because they
are essentially duplicating the programming flaws of terrestrial radio. So
what if Howard can say "fuck", or certain tunes can be played uncensored.
What matters is that the channels are repetitive in nature, with poor
on-air performers (generally). Case in point: my wife, when she rides in
the car with me, likes to play the Classics channel on Sirius (as in
Classical Music, not Classic Rock). And the same problem occurs in that
you will invariably here Mozart, Tchaikovsky, Souza, some random Spanish
guitarist, with regularity. Hundreds of years worth of music to choice
from, and they stick with the same few dozen composers.
Satellite, with or without the merger, will not survive because they are
not supplying anything different to the marketplace.

Good point. I have had Sirius for four years now and it doesn't matter what
channel you listen to...it is just a repetitive loop of the same songs.
Some channels are better than others, regarding the time between repeats,
but it is ridiculous. They don't even play a wide variety of an artist's
titles...they just stick with one or two.

[BaJoRi]

Post by Bob Bohling

Post by BaJoRi

Post by Tony Elka

Post by BaJoRi
Thank you for proving my point. Young people always seem to have money for
the things they want, and XM and Sirius are making certain that it isn't
their product that young people want

What planet are you living on? Young people in the USA are, for the
most part, perpetually broke.
Tony

Please. The way parents spend on their kids today is outrageous. There is
a very good reason that advertisers target younger demographics more than
any other. When they have money, even through a menial job, while in
school, they spend it on comfort items and other things that are stylish
and desired by the peer group. And if they don't have the money they
wheedle it from mom and dad.
Either way you look at it, satellite radio is a dying medium because they
are essentially duplicating the programming flaws of terrestrial radio.
So what if Howard can say "fuck", or certain tunes can be played
uncensored. What matters is that the channels are repetitive in nature,
with poor on-air performers (generally). Case in point: my wife, when she
rides in the car with me, likes to play the Classics channel on Sirius
(as in Classical Music, not Classic Rock). And the same problem occurs in
that you will invariably here Mozart, Tchaikovsky, Souza, some random
Spanish guitarist, with regularity. Hundreds of years worth of music to
choice from, and they stick with the same few dozen composers.
Satellite, with or without the merger, will not survive because they are
not supplying anything different to the marketplace.

Good point. I have had Sirius for four years now and it doesn't matter
what channel you listen to...it is just a repetitive loop of the same
songs.
Some channels are better than others, regarding the time between repeats,
but it is ridiculous. They don't even play a wide variety of an artist's
titles...they just stick with one or two.

Here is my issue: my favorite channel SHOULD be the New Wave Channel, 22.
But invariably you can always hear the same acts any time you turn on the
radio, with very little variation. You may say back that it is an older
music station, and nothing new is being made, etc, but I disagree. There was
enough really great New Wave Music in the 80's and early 90's to avoid
redundancy and repetition. Just small examples: I have never heard the
Damned on that channel, the Teardrop Explodes (although they do play ONE
Julian Cope tune) nor Brian Eno, or the Christians, or Shriekback, or the
Pogues, or Lloyd Cole, or Steve Kilbey, the Toy Dolls, or anything from the
second or third albums of Alphaville, among others.

And the on-air talent is pitiful. This is the most egregious example of
idiocy, but I have heard similar circumstances many times. On St. Patrick's
of 07 I was listening to Madison, who is absolutely clueless. She told the
story of how it was the anniversery of the death of Kirsty McColl, who was
run over by a speedboat in the Caribean. Kirsty, who was Irish, had a good
number of tunes that were semi-popular in the very early nineties and
appeared on 120 Minutes on MTV, etc. So Madison goes through the whole
story, and then says that to commemorate Kirsty's death (who was IRISH!),
and in honor of St. Patrick's Day, she was going to play.....U2!!!!!!! What
the FUCK! At that point in time, don't you think it might have been a good
idea to actually PLAY a Kirsty McColl tune?

The concept that spawned satellite radio is incredible. Too bad they blew
it.

[Bob Bohling]

Post by BaJoRi

Post by Bob Bohling

Post by BaJoRi

Post by Tony Elka

Post by BaJoRi
Thank you for proving my point. Young people always seem to have money for
the things they want, and XM and Sirius are making certain that it isn't
their product that young people want

What planet are you living on? Young people in the USA are, for the
most part, perpetually broke.
Tony

Please. The way parents spend on their kids today is outrageous. There
is a very good reason that advertisers target younger demographics more
than any other. When they have money, even through a menial job, while
in school, they spend it on comfort items and other things that are
stylish and desired by the peer group. And if they don't have the money
they wheedle it from mom and dad.
Either way you look at it, satellite radio is a dying medium because
they are essentially duplicating the programming flaws of terrestrial
radio. So what if Howard can say "fuck", or certain tunes can be played
uncensored. What matters is that the channels are repetitive in nature,
with poor on-air performers (generally). Case in point: my wife, when
she rides in the car with me, likes to play the Classics channel on
Sirius (as in Classical Music, not Classic Rock). And the same problem
occurs in that you will invariably here Mozart, Tchaikovsky, Souza, some
random Spanish guitarist, with regularity. Hundreds of years worth of
music to choice from, and they stick with the same few dozen composers.
Satellite, with or without the merger, will not survive because they are
not supplying anything different to the marketplace.

Good point. I have had Sirius for four years now and it doesn't matter
what channel you listen to...it is just a repetitive loop of the same
songs.
Some channels are better than others, regarding the time between repeats,
but it is ridiculous. They don't even play a wide variety of an artist's
titles...they just stick with one or two.

Here is my issue: my favorite channel SHOULD be the New Wave Channel, 22.
But invariably you can always hear the same acts any time you turn on the
radio, with very little variation. You may say back that it is an older
music station, and nothing new is being made, etc, but I disagree. There
was enough really great New Wave Music in the 80's and early 90's to avoid
redundancy and repetition. Just small examples: I have never heard the
Damned on that channel, the Teardrop Explodes (although they do play ONE
Julian Cope tune) nor Brian Eno, or the Christians, or Shriekback, or the
Pogues, or Lloyd Cole, or Steve Kilbey, the Toy Dolls, or anything from
the second or third albums of Alphaville, among others.
And the on-air talent is pitiful. This is the most egregious example of
idiocy, but I have heard similar circumstances many times. On St.
Patrick's of 07 I was listening to Madison, who is absolutely clueless.
She told the story of how it was the anniversery of the death of Kirsty
McColl, who was run over by a speedboat in the Caribean. Kirsty, who was
Irish, had a good number of tunes that were semi-popular in the very early
nineties and appeared on 120 Minutes on MTV, etc. So Madison goes through
the whole story, and then says that to commemorate Kirsty's death (who was
IRISH!), and in honor of St. Patrick's Day, she was going to
play.....U2!!!!!!! What the FUCK! At that point in time, don't you think
it might have been a good idea to actually PLAY a Kirsty McColl tune?
The concept that spawned satellite radio is incredible. Too bad they blew
it.

They don't just play the same artist, but about only one song by the artist.
Evidently the Thompson Twins only had one song. Geez, play some other
titles. Even on Totally 70's the juke box from hell seems to be the same
person and song selection over and over and over. I go to commercial radio
from time to time, but after 5 minutes of non-stop commercials I go back to
the Sirius playlist loop.

[BaJoRi]

Post by Bob Bohling

Post by BaJoRi

Post by Bob Bohling

Post by BaJoRi

Post by Tony Elka

Post by BaJoRi
Thank you for proving my point. Young people always seem to have money for
the things they want, and XM and Sirius are making certain that it isn't
their product that young people want

What planet are you living on? Young people in the USA are, for the
most part, perpetually broke.
Tony

Please. The way parents spend on their kids today is outrageous. There
is a very good reason that advertisers target younger demographics more
than any other. When they have money, even through a menial job, while
in school, they spend it on comfort items and other things that are
stylish and desired by the peer group. And if they don't have the money
they wheedle it from mom and dad.
Either way you look at it, satellite radio is a dying medium because
they are essentially duplicating the programming flaws of terrestrial
radio. So what if Howard can say "fuck", or certain tunes can be played
uncensored. What matters is that the channels are repetitive in nature,
with poor on-air performers (generally). Case in point: my wife, when
she rides in the car with me, likes to play the Classics channel on
Sirius (as in Classical Music, not Classic Rock). And the same problem
occurs in that you will invariably here Mozart, Tchaikovsky, Souza,
some random Spanish guitarist, with regularity. Hundreds of years worth
of music to choice from, and they stick with the same few dozen
composers.
Satellite, with or without the merger, will not survive because they
are not supplying anything different to the marketplace.

Good point. I have had Sirius for four years now and it doesn't matter
what channel you listen to...it is just a repetitive loop of the same
songs.
Some channels are better than others, regarding the time between
repeats, but it is ridiculous. They don't even play a wide variety of
an artist's
titles...they just stick with one or two.

Here is my issue: my favorite channel SHOULD be the New Wave Channel, 22.
But invariably you can always hear the same acts any time you turn on the
radio, with very little variation. You may say back that it is an older
music station, and nothing new is being made, etc, but I disagree. There
was enough really great New Wave Music in the 80's and early 90's to
avoid redundancy and repetition. Just small examples: I have never heard
the Damned on that channel, the Teardrop Explodes (although they do play
ONE Julian Cope tune) nor Brian Eno, or the Christians, or Shriekback, or
the Pogues, or Lloyd Cole, or Steve Kilbey, the Toy Dolls, or anything
from the second or third albums of Alphaville, among others.
And the on-air talent is pitiful. This is the most egregious example of
idiocy, but I have heard similar circumstances many times. On St.
Patrick's of 07 I was listening to Madison, who is absolutely clueless.
She told the story of how it was the anniversery of the death of Kirsty
McColl, who was run over by a speedboat in the Caribean. Kirsty, who was
Irish, had a good number of tunes that were semi-popular in the very
early nineties and appeared on 120 Minutes on MTV, etc. So Madison goes
through the whole story, and then says that to commemorate Kirsty's death
(who was IRISH!), and in honor of St. Patrick's Day, she was going to
play.....U2!!!!!!! What the FUCK! At that point in time, don't you think
it might have been a good idea to actually PLAY a Kirsty McColl tune?
The concept that spawned satellite radio is incredible. Too bad they blew
it.

They don't just play the same artist, but about only one song by the
artist. Evidently the Thompson Twins only had one song. Geez, play some
other titles. Even on Totally 70's the juke box from hell seems to be the
same person and song selection over and over and over. I go to commercial
radio from time to time, but after 5 minutes of non-stop commercials I go
back to the Sirius playlist loop.

Most of my time is spent listening to ESPN, Stern, the comedy channels, and
news stations. When I listen to music, I usually end up flipping thorugh all
the stations until I land on something that I want to hear, and hasn't been
drubbed into my head ad nauseum, and let me tell you it is difficult. I do
like some of what #26 Left of Center is doing though.