sirius or xm radio

[Peter]

I know sirius and xm merged but I didn't follow the outcome. I'm
looking at a portable unit and wasn't sure if I should be looking for
a Sirius Product or XM.

Thanks,
Pete

[unknown]

Post by Peter
I know sirius and xm merged but I didn't follow the outcome.

They haven't merged yet.

I'm

Post by Peter
looking at a portable unit and wasn't sure if I should be looking for
a Sirius Product or XM.

What do you want? NO current product will be able to take advantage of the
mythical "best of both" services promised if the merger happens.

[BeeL]

Post by unknown

Post by Peter
I know sirius and xm merged but I didn't follow the outcome.

They haven't merged yet.
I'm

Post by Peter
looking at a portable unit and wasn't sure if I should be looking for
a Sirius Product or XM.

What do you want? NO current product will be able to take advantage of the
mythical "best of both" services promised if the merger happens.

So what ARE the advantages/disadvantages of Sirius vs XM? Is it just the
programming?

Thanks in advance for answering a newbie question.

BeeL

[BaJoRi]

Post by BeeL

Post by unknown

Post by Peter
I know sirius and xm merged but I didn't follow the outcome.

They haven't merged yet.
I'm

Post by Peter
looking at a portable unit and wasn't sure if I should be looking for
a Sirius Product or XM.

What do you want? NO current product will be able to take advantage of the
mythical "best of both" services promised if the merger happens.

So what ARE the advantages/disadvantages of Sirius vs XM? Is it just the
programming?
Thanks in advance for answering a newbie question.
BeeL

In all seriousness, if you are looking at satellite radio for the music
selection, you are making a HUGE mistake. It isn't for you. You need to look
at the sports offerings, the talk show offerings, etc. The reason for this
is simple: if you are into music, the satellite channels for current music
do the exact same thing as their FM counterparts, and repeat the same music
again and again and again and again. If you are interested in, for example,
80's music, they do the EXACT same thing as the other stations and repeat
the same music ad nauseum. Unlike current stations, there is no new 80's
music coming out, so the music you hear today will be exactly what you hear
in a month, 6 months, a year, perpetually. There is no variation.

You are better off with a cd player.

[Tony Elka]

Post by BaJoRi
In all seriousness, if you are looking at satellite radio for the music
selection, you are making a HUGE mistake. It isn't for you. You need to look
at the sports offerings, the talk show offerings, etc. The reason for this
is simple: if you are into music, the satellite channels for current music
do the exact same thing as their FM counterparts, and repeat the same music
again and again and again and again. If you are interested in, for example,
80's music, they do the EXACT same thing as the other stations and repeat
the same music ad nauseum. Unlike current stations, there is no new 80's
music coming out, so the music you hear today will be exactly what you hear
in a month, 6 months, a year, perpetually. There is no variation.
You are better off with a cd player.

How on earth is a CD player likely to give you less repetition that a
satellite radio channel? All you're going to hear is the CDs you
already own.

Plus with either XM or SIrius, you get multiple music channels, I never
stay on one for too long.

Tony

[BaJoRi]

Post by Tony Elka

Post by BaJoRi
In all seriousness, if you are looking at satellite radio for the music
selection, you are making a HUGE mistake. It isn't for you. You need to look
at the sports offerings, the talk show offerings, etc. The reason for this
is simple: if you are into music, the satellite channels for current music
do the exact same thing as their FM counterparts, and repeat the same music
again and again and again and again. If you are interested in, for example,
80's music, they do the EXACT same thing as the other stations and repeat
the same music ad nauseum. Unlike current stations, there is no new 80's
music coming out, so the music you hear today will be exactly what you hear
in a month, 6 months, a year, perpetually. There is no variation.
You are better off with a cd player.

How on earth is a CD player likely to give you less repetition that a
satellite radio channel? All you're going to hear is the CDs you
already own.

Yes. I already own them. So then I don't have to pay another $13 just to
hear poorer quality versions of the songs on them.

Post by Tony Elka
Plus with either XM or SIrius, you get multiple music channels, I never
stay on one for too long.

I don't stay on the music stations on sirius at all, as they are the same as
the regular terrestrial stations: they play the same thing over and over and
over and over and over and over and over again.

[Valued Corporate #120,345 Employee (B A R R Y)]

On Fri, 02 May 2008 10:50:04 -0700, Tony Elka

Post by Tony Elka
How on earth is a CD player likely to give you less repetition that a
satellite radio channel? All you're going to hear is the CDs you
already own.

I agree on the CD player, but then there's the IPod or MP3 player!

Post by Tony Elka
Plus with either XM or SIrius, you get multiple music channels, I never
stay on one for too long.

Because the sound quality sucks?

I canned my 3 year satellite subscription, with steadily declining
sound quality, after my favorite talk show was cancelled.

Now, I pay $5/mo. for the talk show as a podcast,have 1200 songs in my
Ipod, and zero dropouts. I buy a song here or there, but most of the
1200 songs are the entire CD collection I ALREADY OWNED.

Did I mention that the IPod also works INSIDE buildings and aboard
commercial aircraft, with no silly extra hardware?

Satellite what? <G>

BTW, I was able to use the same aux. input in my cars that used to
provide satellite radio.

[Tony Elka]

In article <***@4ax.com>,
"Valued Corporate #120,345 Employee (B A R R Y)"

Post by Valued Corporate #120,345 Employee (B A R R Y)
I canned my 3 year satellite subscription, with steadily declining
sound quality, after my favorite talk show was cancelled.
Now, I pay $5/mo. for the talk show as a podcast,have 1200 songs in my
Ipod, and zero dropouts. I buy a song here or there, but most of the
1200 songs are the entire CD collection I ALREADY OWNED.
Did I mention that the IPod also works INSIDE buildings and aboard
commercial aircraft, with no silly extra hardware?
Satellite what? <G>
BTW, I was able to use the same aux. input in my cars that used to
provide satellite radio.

We're not all that far apart. I have a fully-loaded iPod with all my
favorites, and I subscribe to various podcasts as well. I'd be curious
to know what talk show you're paying $5.00 a month for, could it be
Stephanie Miller?

My car stereo has an input jack for my iPod and I also have Sirius
satellite radio installed in the vehicle. Of the two, I find the Sirius
easier to operate while driving, especially since I can switch channels
without taking my hands off the steering wheel.

At home, I have both Sirius and XM available in the bedroom and home
office. I'd drop the XM if it weren't for Randi Rhodes.

Tony

[Valued Corporate #120,345 Employee (B A R R Y)]

On Tue, 06 May 2008 15:23:19 -0700, Tony Elka

Post by Tony Elka
We're not all that far apart. I have a fully-loaded iPod with all my
favorites, and I subscribe to various podcasts as well. I'd be curious
to know what talk show you're paying $5.00 a month for, could it be
Stephanie Miller?

Nope, Bob Brinker.

I canned XM when they dropped him. I have enjoyed his show for 20+
years, XM allowed me to hear it reliably, with no Red Sox, Patriots,
or UCONN pre-emptions.

Now I get a 3 hour show in 2 hours, for $4.95/mo... <G>

[Fred Sanford]

Post by BeeL

Post by unknown

Post by Peter
I know sirius and xm merged but I didn't follow the outcome.

They haven't merged yet.
I'm

Post by Peter
looking at a portable unit and wasn't sure if I should be looking for
a Sirius Product or XM.

What do you want? NO current product will be able to take advantage of the
mythical "best of both" services promised if the merger happens.

So what ARE the advantages/disadvantages of Sirius vs XM? Is it just the
programming?
Thanks in advance for answering a newbie question.
BeeL

My "HD Radio" or IBOC whatever you want to call it does everything I need
here and NO $12.95 bullshit!
It sounds good on AM and very good on FM all around town. The other nice
part, NO COMMERCIALS
on HD radio..unlike the ever increasing amount on XM.
Sirius.....POOR signal quality around the Las Vegas area in general, ZERO
coverage in any parking structure
or around any tall buildings. I would rate Siruis (on a scale of 1 to 10..10
being the best) a hearty 3 (at best)

[Tony Elka]

Post by Fred Sanford
My "HD Radio" or IBOC whatever you want to call it does everything I need
here and NO $12.95 bullshit!
It sounds good on AM and very good on FM all around town. The other nice
part, NO COMMERCIALS
on HD radio..unlike the ever increasing amount on XM.

Your HD Radio is subject to FCC tyranny.

Tony

[BaJoRi]

Post by Tony Elka

Post by Fred Sanford
My "HD Radio" or IBOC whatever you want to call it does everything I need
here and NO $12.95 bullshit!
It sounds good on AM and very good on FM all around town. The other nice
part, NO COMMERCIALS
on HD radio..unlike the ever increasing amount on XM.

Your HD Radio is subject to FCC tyranny.
Tony

And satellite isn't? Let me ask you something: how is the merger going?

[Tony Elka]

Post by BaJoRi

Post by Tony Elka
Your HD Radio is subject to FCC tyranny.
Tony

And satellite isn't?

As regards censorship, no it isn't.

Post by BaJoRi
Let me ask you something: how is the merger going?

Inching slowly forward, but that's not the fault of Sirius or XM.

Tony

[BaJoRi]

Post by Tony Elka

Post by BaJoRi

Post by Tony Elka
Your HD Radio is subject to FCC tyranny.
Tony

And satellite isn't?

As regards censorship, no it isn't.

Post by BaJoRi
Let me ask you something: how is the merger going?

Inching slowly forward, but that's not the fault of Sirius or XM.
Tony

Exactly. You are trying to say that satellite radio is not subject to FCC
regulations, when it most certainly is (otherwise the merger would already
have happened). Regarding censorship, it is one of the main excuses that the
FCC has used to contest the merger. But either way it doesn't matter as both
XM and Sirius are making the same mistake of emulating the style formatting
of commercial radio, and just playing the same things over and over and over
and over again and again and again. And for satellite radio it is worse,
because for a majority of their channels there is no new music being
created, and people like me are being driven away in droves.

[MikeinPA]

Post by BeeL
So what ARE the advantages/disadvantages of Sirius vs XM? Is it just the
programming?

Programming is everything isn't it? Other than that there is no difference.

I subscribe to Sirius and won't go into a sales pitch about their
programming. You should research both services and choose. The fact is I
can't go back to terrestrial radio ever again. The satellite technology has
its problems with temporary drop outs but the entertainment value far out
weighs this minor inconvenience.

Listening to uncensored talk, comedy and commercial free music is something
I can't give up. Not sure how old you are but remember when MTV played
videos 24 hours commercial free? Ever watch a Chris Rock special or his old
show on HBO? Did you ever tune into the weak signal local college radio
station on Saturday night just to listen to their jazz or blues show?

Its all there on satellelite 24 hours a day no matter where you are.

Geez! I said I wasn't going to do a sales pitch.

[Hang_Traitor_Democrats]

I have both Sirius and XM. Daughter has XM in her car and loves it. I
have XM for talk radio. I have Sirius for the music.

If you want selection at home, I would suggest looking at Wifi or
Internet radios. Thousands of stations from around the world. Can easily
be connected to a stereo just like sat radio. Do a search on Sangean
WFR-20 for example to see what I am referring to. That model is Recive3r
based (reciva.com) but there are many more out there to choose from. All
the music choices are there, news, talks, sports on the local stations
who broadcast over the Internet, comedy, etc.

But for a car, you have to go with sat radio.

I also have HD and love it. Especially HD AM stations. It sounds just
like standard FM. I just the radio companies made better just of the
additional "channel" they get when using HD, but that's another discussion.

Post by MikeinPA

Post by BeeL
So what ARE the advantages/disadvantages of Sirius vs XM? Is it just the
programming?

Programming is everything isn't it? Other than that there is no difference.
I subscribe to Sirius and won't go into a sales pitch about their
programming. You should research both services and choose. The fact is I
can't go back to terrestrial radio ever again. The satellite technology has
its problems with temporary drop outs but the entertainment value far out
weighs this minor inconvenience.
Listening to uncensored talk, comedy and commercial free music is something
I can't give up. Not sure how old you are but remember when MTV played
videos 24 hours commercial free? Ever watch a Chris Rock special or his old
show on HBO? Did you ever tune into the weak signal local college radio
station on Saturday night just to listen to their jazz or blues show?
Its all there on satellelite 24 hours a day no matter where you are.
Geez! I said I wasn't going to do a sales pitch.

[Capricorne]

Post by Peter
I know sirius and xm merged but I didn't follow the outcome. I'm
looking at a portable unit and wasn't sure if I should be looking for
a Sirius Product or XM.
Thanks,
Pete

I have both services for two years now. I'm not interested in sports.
I like news ans music. I prefer XM for music (choice and quality of
sound). The news channels have a poor sound quality though. For news,
I prefer Sirius. More choice and better sound quality. For the French
channels, I prefer Sirius.

It all depends on what you are looking for: music, news, sports, sound
quality, etc.

[BeeL]

Much appreciated, Capricorne and MikeinPA

Thats just the kind of advice I was looking for.

-- BeeL

Post by Capricorne

Post by Peter
I know sirius and xm merged but I didn't follow the outcome. I'm
looking at a portable unit and wasn't sure if I should be looking for
a Sirius Product or XM.
Thanks,
Pete

I have both services for two years now. I'm not interested in sports.
I like news ans music. I prefer XM for music (choice and quality of
sound). The news channels have a poor sound quality though. For news,
I prefer Sirius. More choice and better sound quality. For the French
channels, I prefer Sirius.
It all depends on what you are looking for: music, news, sports, sound
quality, etc.